CyrixIII 2013-10-22 10:33:52 发表在 19楼
不是上海,不是深圳,我在成都自提的,能量C5坛子有最低420买的
昨天晚上在美国著名机油坛BITOY上找到一些能量的资料,从添加剂成分含量来说感觉很一般,而且力魔特有的钼含量居然少到可以忽略不计
让我很是吃惊
十万个为什么呢 2013-10-22 10:40:44 发表在 24楼
意思就是能量 大多数都是基础油。。。添加剂都很少?
这是啥状况?难道正如别人说的,跑8K加一瓶力魔强效润滑剂?然后跑到2W 都和2K的时候感觉差不多。
我觉得力魔有点装神啊。
现在反馈的信息是,紫色力魔的性能和其他品牌的全合成差不多(降噪+动力啥的),但是耐久度超高(1W油纸测试还很好,和新机油差异不太大)。
本人的机器里面还是神龙长城半合成。哈哈哈哈。
这个帖子
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2377569
这份VOA报告是第三方机油检测的,里面Ca钙、 Mg镁、Zn锌的含量都不低,倒是Mo钼含量只有1ppm,可以忽略不计了,脱裤的Mo含量我记得超过200ppm
TBN总碱值9,长效性还可以,X-MAX是7,X-CESS是10,不过长里程使用后感受可能不同
因为这个是第三方做的VOA值,肯定跟厂家的值会略有差异,跟产品批次、实验条件、方法有关
CyrixIII 2013-10-22 10:42:00 发表在 25楼
添加剂不少,就是没有力魔特有的液态钼 这个帖子
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflatNumber=2377569
十万个为什么呢 2013-10-22 10:50:13 发表在 29楼
There's a full 1 ppm of moly!
This is afterall Liqui Moly!
Never seen the green bottle before. Weird.
Typically the local NAPA has Synthoil Premium 5w40 (purple), Longtime Plus 5w30 (blue), and Synthoil Energy 0w40 (black). Some stock the MoS2 10w40 (silver) and Diesel High Tech 5w40 (indigo).
They can get the Race Tech 10w60 (silver) if you ask.
Just got back from a long conversation with the Liqui Moly Export Manager and Research and Development Manager. I was there at 18:45, and it was 21:50 when I walked out the door! Thoroughly enjoyed talking to them, and picking off different products off a shelf and asking questions about them directly to the people involved in their development is an unforgettable experience. I don"t think I left out a single product I did not ask about! Think "kid in a candy shop".
Anyhow, before I go on, for those of you who asked questions, I"ve got the answers for you here, along with a few of my own questions:
Q: Is your MOS2 Engine Treatment safe for use with synthetic media oil filters with finer filtration?
A: Short answer is yes. Nothing will be left behind in the oil filter to cause any sort of blockage, even with extended drain intervals. The particles are fine enough to pass, and are extremely small (µm). They will not be visible to the naked eye, unless you are looking at them through a microscope.
Q: How frequently should your MOS2 Engine Treatment be used?
A: It is safe enough to use at every oil change, even in a brand new engine.
I inquired about dumping in a full bottle at one OCI and a small amount at the next. They simply said you can dump in a full bottle at the next OCI without thinking twice!
但是从这3000公里使用下来,力魔能量的体验还不错,头2000没什么特别,差不多2000之后就感觉到变化了,就像我前面帖子里描述的
看看这种感觉能维持多久
Q: Do you have an engine oil that is best suited to direct injection engines with excessive valve deposit issues?
A: The answer to this one was a bit complicated; it depends on the manufacturer"s oil recommendation. However, it is a wise idea to flush out the deposits after extended oil change intervals. There"s a machine Liqui Moly calls JetClean Tronic to which fuel additives can be directly connected to a vehicle"s fuel system. I beleive the product induced to the fuel system through the machine is their Ventil Sauber valve cleaner.
Q: Is there a distributor for your Cera Tec oil additive in the United States?
A: It will be available in the near future. The US is tough about what specifications products should meet, and the product is currently being adapted to pass American standards.
Q: Given the choice between your two Porsche-approved engine oils, 0W-40 and 5W-40 respectively, which is better suited to 20,000+ kilometre (12,500+ mile) drain intervals under extreme heat conditions?
A: The 0W-40 is developed for colder climate conditions, with cold starts and cold oil flow in mind. However, the 5W-40 is better suited to 20,000+ kilometre drain intervals in extreme heat conditions.
Q: Is your Engine Flush harmful to gaskets and seals in the engine?
A: The product is only run through the engine for about 10 minutes. However, if a 500 ml bottle of Engine Flush is poured into the slump, about 250 ml will remain in the engine to mix with the new oil. As the oil reaches operating temperature, the Engine Flush will begin to evaporate.
Q: Would you be able to disclose the Total BaseXSS Number of your Porsche-approved Synthoil High Tech 5W-40 engine oil? Unfortunately, this was not mentioned in your Technical Data Sheet.
A: The Total BaseXSS Number is really more important in diesel applications than it is in petrol, and hence it is not disclosed in the TSD.
Q: It seems some of your products carry specifications that are not up to date. Is this due to the cost factor?
A: Some of our products (product in point is the 0W-40) carry old labels, so sorry about that. Some specifications, such as BMW LongLife 98, are already obsolete, but are mentioned on the product labelling for vehicles still requiring such specs. Meeting some specifications is also not as worthwhile financially, due to demand. Testing one product once in a laboratory costs in excess of 20,000 Euros.
Q: In cold weather conditions, a peanut buttery reside is formed on the inside of the oil cap. Why is this, and how can it be avoided?
A: The peanut buttery residue is a by product of condensation. As the vehicles gets driven, and the oil is allowed to reach operating temperature, it will go away.
Q: Do you happen to have a TC-W3 approved oil?
A: Yes, both in synthetic and mineral forms.
Q: Why do you carry a different brand name (Lubro Moly) in the United States, when you are known as Liqui Moly every where else?
A: Somebody currently owns the rights to the Liqui Moly name in the United States, and we have been unable to use it, without being asked to pay crazy money. Liqui Moly may be used in the future
This is just about all I remember at the moment. I"ve asked so many questions, even I forgot some of the answers. But one of their products (Top Tec 4200) is recommended for 50,000 kilometre (31,250 mile) drain intervals!
Having said that, I am not at all concerned about the small difference in price when comparing Liqui Moly products to others. They have certainly won me over, not only from a product point of view, but also from a customer care point of view. These gentlemen came to Kuwait on business, yet devoted over 3 hours of their time to sit with me in person, answer my questions and discuss lubricants and the automotive market. You certainly won"t find many representatives who do that these days.
We also spoke about the poor quality lubricants sold in the Middle East, sourced from places like the UAE. Out in the field, they had to deal with someone who was running 20W-50 mineral oil in a Bentley, calling for synthetic oil!
Anyhow, they"ve even given me their contact details to keep in touch, and ask any questions regarding current or future products. I also told them about BITOG, and they will be checking us out soon!
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